A problem with molecule NO
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A problem with molecule NO
Hi, everbody
I calculated the isolated NO molecule, the total energy Etot=-12.026eV. But the experimental data of bond energy N=O is 607KJ/mol, is about 6.294eV. I do not know why, so I ask for your help. My setup is as follow:
INCAR
general:
SYSTEM = NO
ISTART = 0 ; ICHARG=2
ISMEAR = 0 ; SIGMA = 0.2
dynamic:
IBRION = 2
NSW = 100
POTIM = 0.1
EDIFFG=-0.01
ENCUT=400
PREC = High
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POSCAR
1.00000000000000
30.8200000000000003 0.0000000000000000 0.0000000000000000
0.0000000000000000 30.8200000000000003 0.0000000000000000
0.0000000000000000 0.0000000000000000 30.3150000000000013
O N
1 1
Selective dynamics
Direct
0.7378683101883881 0.9468784104989977 0.9995057216026794 T T T
0.7352416702863921 0.9874461343450991 0.0000494644823208 T T T
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KPOINT
Gamma-point only
1
rec
0 0 0 1
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POTCAR use normal PBE
##########################
Thank you for your help and look forward to your answer
Best wishes
I calculated the isolated NO molecule, the total energy Etot=-12.026eV. But the experimental data of bond energy N=O is 607KJ/mol, is about 6.294eV. I do not know why, so I ask for your help. My setup is as follow:
INCAR
general:
SYSTEM = NO
ISTART = 0 ; ICHARG=2
ISMEAR = 0 ; SIGMA = 0.2
dynamic:
IBRION = 2
NSW = 100
POTIM = 0.1
EDIFFG=-0.01
ENCUT=400
PREC = High
################################
POSCAR
1.00000000000000
30.8200000000000003 0.0000000000000000 0.0000000000000000
0.0000000000000000 30.8200000000000003 0.0000000000000000
0.0000000000000000 0.0000000000000000 30.3150000000000013
O N
1 1
Selective dynamics
Direct
0.7378683101883881 0.9468784104989977 0.9995057216026794 T T T
0.7352416702863921 0.9874461343450991 0.0000494644823208 T T T
##########################
KPOINT
Gamma-point only
1
rec
0 0 0 1
##########################
POTCAR use normal PBE
##########################
Thank you for your help and look forward to your answer
Best wishes
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
Hi!
The energy of formation is NOT equal to the total energy.
I'd strongly(!) suggest you read some basic textbooks about thermodynamics and quantum chemistry/physics.
Cheers,
alex
The energy of formation is NOT equal to the total energy.
I'd strongly(!) suggest you read some basic textbooks about thermodynamics and quantum chemistry/physics.
Cheers,
alex
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
I also considered spin polarization. with ISPIN=2 Etot_NO=-12.2979eV,and E_O=-1.5925eV E_N=-3.1112eV, Ebond=7.5942eV, which is better a little bit, but still 1.3eV larger than the experimental value.
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
hi alexalex wrote:Hi!
The energy of formation is NOT equal to the total energy.
I'd strongly(!) suggest you read some basic textbooks about thermodynamics and quantum chemistry/physics.
Cheers,
alex
thanks for your answer
sure, you are right, "The energy of formation is NOT equal to the total energy." But if you calculate an isolated atom like O N in a normal way(without spin polarization), the energy is rather small comparing with the total energy of molecule, that's why I only mentioned the total energy (I am sorry that I forget to give the results with spin polarization, and I have added this part already). I think "formation energy" is not what I am talking about,but "binding energy". For formation energy, one must think about the reference.
Thank you again for your answer
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
Hi tonylxh,
I see your point. Anyway, scientific discussion needs precision in both language and experiment. ;-)
Thanks for clarification. Try something like that for INCAR (see below).
One more thing - you have done right in your POSCAR already - is to destroy symmetry in one direction.
You also need to check you OUTCAR for the proper occupation.
Cheers,
alex
PS:
SYSTEM = O-atom
Electronic minimisation
GGA = PE
PREC = Accu
EDIFFG = 1.e-8
EDIFFG = -1.e-6
ENCUT = 400.
NELMIN = 4
NELM = 200 ! Maximum number of electronic SC steps
LMAXMIX = 6
ISPIN = 2
NUPDOWN = 2
DOS related values
SIGMA = 0.001
ISMEAR = 0 ! Gaussian smearing for big cells
Do not write huge files
LCHARG = .FALSE.
LWAVE = .FALSE.
Performance options
NPAR = 1 ! adjust to number of processors
ALGO = N
I see your point. Anyway, scientific discussion needs precision in both language and experiment. ;-)
Thanks for clarification. Try something like that for INCAR (see below).
One more thing - you have done right in your POSCAR already - is to destroy symmetry in one direction.
You also need to check you OUTCAR for the proper occupation.
Cheers,
alex
PS:
SYSTEM = O-atom
Electronic minimisation
GGA = PE
PREC = Accu
EDIFFG = 1.e-8
EDIFFG = -1.e-6
ENCUT = 400.
NELMIN = 4
NELM = 200 ! Maximum number of electronic SC steps
LMAXMIX = 6
ISPIN = 2
NUPDOWN = 2
DOS related values
SIGMA = 0.001
ISMEAR = 0 ! Gaussian smearing for big cells
Do not write huge files
LCHARG = .FALSE.
LWAVE = .FALSE.
Performance options
NPAR = 1 ! adjust to number of processors
ALGO = N
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
Hi Alexalex wrote:Hi tonylxh,
I see your point. Anyway, scientific discussion needs precision in both language and experiment. ;-)
Thanks for clarification. Try something like that for INCAR (see below).
One more thing - you have done right in your POSCAR already - is to destroy symmetry in one direction.
You also need to check you OUTCAR for the proper occupation.
Cheers,
alex
PS:
SYSTEM = O-atom
Electronic minimisation
GGA = PE
PREC = Accu
EDIFFG = 1.e-8
EDIFFG = -1.e-6
ENCUT = 400.
NELMIN = 4
NELM = 200 ! Maximum number of electronic SC steps
LMAXMIX = 6
ISPIN = 2
NUPDOWN = 2
DOS related values
SIGMA = 0.001
ISMEAR = 0 ! Gaussian smearing for big cells
Do not write huge files
LCHARG = .FALSE.
LWAVE = .FALSE.
Performance options
NPAR = 1 ! adjust to number of processors
ALGO = N
Thank you very much for your answer. I tried to calculate the energy of O atom with INCAR you suggusted, but the energy does not change much(less than 0.05eV). I am wondering if there is any mistake I made when I calculated the total energy of NO. Do you find any mistake of my input files?
Thanks again for your help
Best wishes
tony
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
Hi tony,
you got the wrong occupation in your calculation. If you do it right, you'll end up at around -1.9 eV for the total energy of an O atom (400eV/O standard PAW/PBE).
cheers,
alex
you got the wrong occupation in your calculation. If you do it right, you'll end up at around -1.9 eV for the total energy of an O atom (400eV/O standard PAW/PBE).
cheers,
alex
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Re: A problem with molecule NO
Hi alexalex wrote:Hi tony,
you got the wrong occupation in your calculation. If you do it right, you'll end up at around -1.9 eV for the total energy of an O atom (400eV/O standard PAW/PBE).
cheers,
alex
Thank you very much for your help
Best wishes
tony