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Persistent Delocalized States in Vacuum Region for Bi Surface Calculation

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:35 am
by akuklin

Hello VASP community,

I am encountering an unusual issue while calculating the ELFCAR of a Bi surface using the PBE functional. The results reveal a significant presence of delocalized states throughout the vacuum region. Delocalized electronic states appear distinctly in the vacuum region, not extending directly from the surface, but rather appearing independently within the vacuum. This behaviour suggests these states may be artefacts rather than physical features.
I also calculated LOCPOT which changes quite a lot in the vacuum region (see attachments)

Here are the specific details of my setup and observations:
PREC= high
GGA = PE
IVDW = 11
Electronic Relaxation 1
NELM = 80;
EDIFF = 1E-04 stopping-criterion for ELM
Ionic Relaxation c-
NSW = 0 number of steps for IOM
NBLOCK = 1;
IBRION = -1 ionic relax: 0-MD 1-quasi-New 2-CG
ISIF = 2 stress and relaxation
ISYM = 2
LCORR = T Harris-correction to forces
LDIAG = T
LCHARG = .T.
EDIFFG = -1E-02
ISPIN = 1
LWAVE =.T.
LVTOT = T
LELF = T
ISMEAR = -5;
IALGO = 38 algorithm
SIGMA = .05 broadening in eV -4-tet -1-fermi 0-gaus
LREAL = A real-space projection
NCORE = 4
LSCALU = .F.
LASPH = .TRUE.
LORBIT = 11
NEDOS = 5000
ENCUT = 500
A vacuum thickness was over 20 Å, ensuring minimal interaction between periodic images.

I believe that states could be a numerical artefact, perhaps related to the functional but not sure 100%. I attempted calculations using SCAN, which completely eliminated these vacuum states, suggesting they may indeed be artefacts of PBE. However, when using HSE06, the delocalized states persist, though they are less pronounced.
Would it be worthwhile to test a GW calculation for this system, or are there adjustments within DFT that could better address this issue and make me 100% sure that this is an artefact?
Any insights or suggestions would be highly appreciated, especially from those who have experience with surface calculations and dealing with spurious vacuum states in similar setups.

Thank you!


Re: Persistent Delocalized States in Vacuum Region for Bi Surface Calculation

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:04 am
by henrique_miranda

Could you share the INCAR, KPOINTS, OUTCAR and OSZICAR of the calculations with the different functionals: PBE, HSE06 and SCAN?
Calculations with a lot of vacuum tend to be hard to converge, before trying to answer your question we should make sure that the calculations converged properly.


Re: Persistent Delocalized States in Vacuum Region for Bi Surface Calculation

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:06 am
by akuklin

Please check the attachments


Re: Persistent Delocalized States in Vacuum Region for Bi Surface Calculation

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:01 pm
by henrique_miranda

OK, thank you for sharing the OUTCAR and OSZICAR.
Your calculations seem to be converging well. At least, I don't see any obvious problem.
EDIFF is maybe a bit large, but I doubt lowering it will change the final results significantly.

Do you also see this delocalization of the states in the CHGCAR by means of a large charge density in the vaccum region?
Could you share the ELFCAR.jpg for the different functionals too?


Re: Persistent Delocalized States in Vacuum Region for Bi Surface Calculation

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:20 pm
by akuklin

Yes, the states can also be seen in the CHGCAR when setting the appropriate isosurface level
The ELFCARs are attached


Re: Persistent Delocalized States in Vacuum Region for Bi Surface Calculation

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:53 am
by henrique_miranda

Sorry for my late reply.
I had a more careful look at your OUTCAR files and it looks like you have a warning:

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|                                                                             |
|           W    W    AA    RRRRR   N    N  II  N    N   GGGG   !!!           |
|           W    W   A  A   R    R  NN   N  II  NN   N  G    G  !!!           |
|           W    W  A    A  R    R  N N  N  II  N N  N  G       !!!           |
|           W WW W  AAAAAA  RRRRR   N  N N  II  N  N N  G  GGG   !            |
|           WW  WW  A    A  R   R   N   NN  II  N   NN  G    G                |
|           W    W  A    A  R    R  N    N  II  N    N   GGGG   !!!           |
|                                                                             |
|      One of the lattice vectors is very long (>50 A), but AMIN is rather    |
|      large. This can spoil convergence since charge sloshing might occur    |
|      along the long lattice vector. If problems with convergence are        |
|      observed, try to decrease AMIN to a smaller values (e.g. 0.01).        |
|      Note: this warning only applies if the selfconsistency cycle is used.  |
|                                                                             |
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These warnings are often significant.
I see that in your calculations you set EDIFF to 1e-4 which might be too high.
If you set it to a lower value, EDIFF=1e-6, I think you will find that your calculation takes many iterations to converge (in some cases it might not converge at all).

Before playing around with the mixing parameters (AMIN), I would first suggest that you do a convergence study with respect to vacuum.
Start with a small amount first, 6Å or so and increase slowly while monitoring the final quantity you are interested in.
Having an excessive amount of vacuum can lead to problems in your SCF loop and this behavior that you are observing.