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Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:11 pm
by Fermi1976
Dear VASP Forum,
I am interested in calculating the thermal expansion coefficient of graphite using MLFF, so I can utilize the temperature-dependent lattice constants later on to perform temperature-dependent phonon calculations. I have been trying using NPT, but I have some issues, I will be grateful if you could give some advices how to improve the calculations.
I am attaching the INCAR ML_LOGFILE files. I used 288 atoms, 3x3x3 k-mesh.
I am attaching also, the Bayesian error, RMSE, volume, Temp and c-lattice constant as a function of MD steps.
My questions are as follow:
1- There is a sharp drop in the volume (mainly due to the drop in c-lattice constant). This happened in the training stage (below 6000 MS steps). I appreciate your feedback for this issue
2- The number of the AB configurations is 94, how can increase this number to improve the quality of the FF?
Thank you
Re: Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:54 am
by ferenc_karsai
Can you please send us all your files even if they are big (XDATCAR, POSCAR, POTCAR, ML_AB/N, ICONST, OUTCAR).
I would like to have a look at the trajectory, have you done so?
I already saw a type in your INCAR file. You wrote "Ecut = 600". I guess you meant "ENCUT = 600".
What you can try in the meantime:
-) Use ENCUT= 600 instead of the typo.
-) Try a different PMASS.
-) Try a different van der Waals (IVDW=10).
But these are only guesses, so I'm not sure any of these will help you.
Re: Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:58 am
by Fermi1976
1- Thank you for finding the Ecut typo. I am repeating the calculations using ENCUT=600. I doubt this will make significant difference since ENMAX =400 in OTCAR and I am using PREC= Accurate (==> ENCUT ~520 eV).
I am wondering why VAPS did not show any warning of this typo.
2- I tried different PMASS values (1000, 2000, 3000), I did not get noticeable difference.
3- I tested different IVDW, IVDW=10 gave c = 6.39 A, which is far from the experimental value of 6.67 A. Whereas using IVDW=12 shows better prediction of c- value (6.66 A).
4- I will find away to send you the files you requested, they are so big.
Thank you again, I appreciate your willingness to help.
Re: Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:05 pm
by Fermi1976
Hi ferenc_karsai,
Could you please send me your email so I can share with you a link to access the files?
Regards,
Iyad
Re: Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:11 pm
by Fermi1976
ferenc_karsai wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:54 am
Can you please send us all your files even if they are big (XDATCAR, POSCAR, POTCAR, ML_AB/N, ICONST, OUTCAR).
I would like to have a look at the trajectory, have you done so?
I have sent you the files, please let me know if you got them.
Thank you
Re: Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:37 am
by ferenc_karsai
No I didn't get any files, but please upload them to something like dropbox and post the link here.
Re: Thermal Expansion using MLFF
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:35 pm
by Fermi1976
ferenc_karsai wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:37 am
No I didn't get any files, but please upload them to something like dropbox and post the link here.
Hi Fernec,
Please use this dropbox link to have access to the files. Please let me know if this works.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/3vhw4tp8 ... bd37m&dl=0
Thank you