H2 dissociation energy

Queries about input and output files, running specific calculations, etc.


Moderators: Global Moderator, Moderator

Post Reply
Message
Author
pavel
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:08 pm
License Nr.: FA513901
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

H2 dissociation energy

#1 Post by pavel » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:45 pm

I tried to calculate the dissociation energy of H2 using PAW_GGA potential for H (version 07Jul1998) using the following INCAR files:

Code: Select all

SYSTEM = isolated H2 molecule

ISMEAR = 2
SIGMA = 0.2
ENCUT = 450

NPAR = 4

GGA = 91

ISPIN = 1

IALGO = 48
LREAL = .FALSE.
NSIM = 4

NSW = 20
IBRION = 2
POTIM = 0.3

NELMIN = 4
EDIFF = 1E-2
EDIFFG = 1E-4
and

Code: Select all

SYSTEM = isolated H atom

ISMEAR = 2
SIGMA = 0.001
ENCUT = 450

NPAR = 4

GGA = 91

ISPIN = 1

IALGO = 48
LREAL = .FALSE.
NSIM = 4

NSW = 20
IBRION = 2
POTIM = 0.3

NELMIN = 4
EDIFF = 1E-2
EDIFFG = 1E-4
I have got a dissociation energy about 6.7 eV, while experimental value is about 4.52 eV.

Then I realized that I have forgotten spin. I recalculated both values with spin, but the dissociation energy changed only in the forth digit after comma.

What could be the reason for this discrepancy?
Last edited by pavel on Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

pavel
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:08 pm
License Nr.: FA513901
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

H2 dissociation energy

#2 Post by pavel » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:56 am

Dear Ojwang,
Certainly, I must be wrong and I am trying to understand where.

The value of 6.7 eV I have got as a difference between the energy of two free hydrogen atoms and the energy of a molecule. You are right, it should be called formation energy, not dissociation energy. But then dissociation energy defined as the energy necessary to separate H2 molecule should be higher as the height of the activation barrier should be added to the formation energy. However it is lower (4.5 eV). Something is still wrong with my understanding.

Could you also explain what is 1.1188 eV?
Last edited by pavel on Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

radny
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:34 pm

H2 dissociation energy

#3 Post by radny » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:54 am

There are two ways of doing the calculations.
1. Calculate the energies of H2 and H+H in the same box seperately and then calculate the B. energy as E(H2) - E(H+H), or
2. Calculate the energies of H2 and H in the same box seperately and calculate the energy from E(H2) - 2E(H).

For large systems these two ways of calculating the b. energetics are not the same.
Last edited by radny on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

Franky
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 pm
License Nr.: Research Group E. Pehlke

H2 dissociation energy

#4 Post by Franky » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:08 am

Dear Pavel,

please switch on spinpolarization for the isolated atom using:
ISPIN = 2

If you say you did so and the binding energy didnt change, something is very wrong !
The total energy of the H-Atom changes by 1 eV after turning on spinpol.,
so the binding energy changes by 2 eV !
{ E_total(H2) - 2*E_total(H; Spin) = E_binding ~ - 4.6eV}

@radny:

I would be very worried if the calculation using on H-atom per cell results in a
different total energy than 0.5*E_total(H+H) using a cell that is twice as
big as the first on containing two seperated H-atoms!

If you use the same setup as for one H-atom per cell, you might want to think
about changing the occupation numbers manually for the 2 H-atoms. Otherwise, you
are not calculation the total energy of two individual H-atoms!
Last edited by Franky on Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

yzt102

H2 dissociation energy

#5 Post by yzt102 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:41 pm

I calculate the energy for a sigle H and it comes out to about -0.9eV.
How did you guys got 1.1188eV, Here is my INCAR

SYSTEM = Hydrogen absoption
LWAVE = .F.
LCHARG = .FALSE.
ISMEAR = 0
SIGMA = 0.1
IALGO = 48
LPLANE=.TRUE.
#NPAR = 2
#NSIM = 2
ENCUT=500 eV
NELMIN = 6 ! do a minimum of ten electronic steps
EDIFF = 1E-6 ! default accuracy for electronic groundstate
EDIFFG = -0.02 ! tolerance for ions
NSW = 0 ! 80 ionic steps should do
SMASS=0.5
IBRION = 3
POTIM=0.05
ISPIN=2
MAGMOM=1
Last edited by yzt102 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Franky
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 pm
License Nr.: Research Group E. Pehlke

H2 dissociation energy

#6 Post by Franky » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:27 am

I used this INCAR:
System = H-Atom
GGA = 91
PREC = High
LREAL = .FALSE.
ENCUT = 520
ENAUG = 1000
ISPIN = 2
NBANDS = 4
ISMEAR = 0
SIGMA = 0.10
ALGO = Normal
NSW = 0
NELM = 60
EDIFF = 1E-7

KPOINT:
Automatic
0
Gamma
1 1 1
0 0 0

POSCAR:
cubic H
1
10.0 0.0 0.0
0.0 10.0 0.0
0.0 0.0 10.0
1
cartesian
0.0 0.0 0.0
Last edited by Franky on Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:27 am, edited 1 time in total.

Franky
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 pm
License Nr.: Research Group E. Pehlke

H2 dissociation energy

#7 Post by Franky » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:29 am

OUTPUT:

FREE ENERGIE OF THE ION-ELECTRON SYSTEM (eV)
---------------------------------------------------
free energy TOTEN = -1.120607 eV

energy without entropy= -1.120607 energy(sigma->0) = -1.120607
Last edited by Franky on Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

wlyim
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:17 pm
Location: Singapore
Contact:

H2 dissociation energy

#8 Post by wlyim » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:35 pm

Dear all,

I used PAW-PBE for hydrogen (planewave cutoff = 500 eV, charge density cutoff = 800eV) and the calculated bond dissociation of H2 was 4.54 eV. The trick is among the occupation of the atomic species. Try to use "ISMEAR = -2", "SIGMA = 0.0", and "FERWE" and "FERDO" tags. This trick is also crucial to get correct BDE's for other diatomics.
Last edited by wlyim on Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Franky
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 pm
License Nr.: Research Group E. Pehlke

H2 dissociation energy

#9 Post by Franky » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:09 am

Using FERWE and FERDO to choose a magnetic groundstate is crucial for certain atoms (see manual).
But not for hydrogen since there is only 1 electron.
For H2 it is certainly not an issue because of the unpolarized
groundstate. The H2 / H results (atleast mine) are independent of the ISMEAR tag with an appropriate SIGMA. The crucial point is to closely watch the occ. numbers being: up=1 0 0 ... down=0 0 0 ... for H.
ISMEAR = 0 and SIGMA = 0.1 was sufficient to accieve this.

And of course to do convergence tests using different ISMEAR and SIGMA.

By the way, in order to compare your results to the exp. value (~4.52eV) you have to include zero point vibration of H2.
These weaken the theo. bond by ~0.27eV !
Last edited by Franky on Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

wlyim
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:17 pm
Location: Singapore
Contact:

H2 dissociation energy

#10 Post by wlyim » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:41 pm

Hi all,

I am sorry that my previous reply may be confusing. Anyway, for some cases, like Cl atom, it is crucial to check the occupation and "SMEAR=-2" can help.

Referring to Pavel's question, I have tried to reproduce the results. To calculate the dissociation energy of H2, H2 should be calculated using spin-unpolarized, while a spin-polarized calculation for the H atom.

It should be mentioned that using spin-polarized calculation for H2 with smearing, it would run into a wrong electronic state (both spin up) and the hydrogen atoms will be separated. I and my co-worker have experienced this before, no matter what kind of basis set and functional. So, one has to check the electronic occupation very carefully when using open-shell calculation for H2. If I understand Pavel correctly, Pavel got a dissociation energy of 0.000x eV, which was a consequence of the open-shell H2 I mentioned.
Last edited by wlyim on Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

yzt102

H2 dissociation energy

#11 Post by yzt102 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:03 pm

I calcualted the H-H bond energy with the INCAR I posted here on last wednesday. It turned out that the bond energy for PBE is 4.5 eV and LDA is 4.85 eV. Could different XC function resulted in such a huge difference?

SYSTEM = Hydrogen atom
LWAVE = .F.
LCHARG = .FALSE.
ISMEAR = 0
SIGMA = 0.1
IALGO = 48
LPLANE=.TRUE.
#NPAR = 2
#NSIM = 2
ENCUT=500 eV
NELMIN = 6 ! do a minimum of ten electronic steps
EDIFF = 1E-6 ! default accuracy for electronic groundstate
EDIFFG = -0.02 ! tolerance for ions
NSW = 0 ! 80 ionic steps should do
SMASS=0.5
IBRION = 3
POTIM=0.05
ISPIN=2
MAGMOM=1

POSCAR

H atom
1.000000000000000
20 0 0.0000000000000000
0 20 0.0000000000000000
0 0.0000000000000000 20
1
Direct
0.5 0.5 0.5
Last edited by yzt102 on Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Franky
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 pm
License Nr.: Research Group E. Pehlke

H2 dissociation energy

#12 Post by Franky » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:53 am

yes. But a diff. <10% isn't huge I think.

(see eg. D. C. Patton et. al., PRB 55, 7454 (1997) )
Last edited by Franky on Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

tak
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:14 pm
License Nr.: 828

H2 dissociation energy

#13 Post by tak » Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:10 pm

Dear Admin and VASP user,

I thought here is the better place to post my question rather than establish new thread.

I’m dealing with H2 and H for the part of my study, formaldehyde reaction on Fe surface. I have total energies of -6.677 and -1.117eV for non-spin polarized H2 and spin polarized H, respectively using PAW-PBE. Based on these values, I came up with bond dissociation energy of 4.44eV. It looks these energies are not far from other DFT and experimental studies, however my calculation does not include zero point energy, which is ~0.266eV with calculated frequency of 4295cm^-1.

I wonder if other studies, such as Kresse and Hafner (Admin?) (Sur. Sci. 459 (2000) 287, 4.58eV) and Jiang and Carter (PRB 70, 064102 (2004), 4.54eV) included zpe.

I appreciate anyone’s comment.

Thank you very much.
Last edited by tak on Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

admin
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 2921
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:18 am
License Nr.: 458

H2 dissociation energy

#14 Post by admin » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:51 am

please let me add 2 comments
tak: no, zero point energies are not included in vasp results
wlyim: please have a look into some basic quantum mechanics textbook: the ground state of H2 is the spin singlet state, therefore you will always obtain the stable ground state solution for H2 with a non-spinpolarized run, the spin-polarized solution (triplet state) is the ground state of 2 H atoms in the box, not matter which functional you choose.
Last edited by admin on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

Post Reply