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frequency calculation

#1 Post by tssunrise » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:08 am

When doing frequency calculation (IBROIN=5),it is suggested to build a supercell large enough.However,if my cell is very small,building a large supercell(eg 3*3*3) would induce too many atoms in the system,and slow down the calculation significantly.What should I do ? Thanks!
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#2 Post by alex » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:04 pm

Why do want to calculate a supercell if your system does _not_ require one?
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#3 Post by forsdan » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:41 pm

@alex: I do not understand your answer. If you want to evaluate the dynamical matrix by using finite difference, you will have to use a larger supercell. Otherwise your force constants will be effected significantly by the displacements in the periodic cells.

@ tssunrise: I would suggest that you first do the calculation using a 1*1*1 cell and a 2*2*2 cell. Then if there is a significant difference and/or to check for convergence, you will have to accept that it is necessary and perform the 3*3*3 supercell calculation as well. (Alternatively you can gradually extent the supercell in one direction at the time to estimate the effect, 2*2*2 -> 2*2*3 -> 2*3*3 -> 3*3*3. )

EDIT: If you have access to Vasp 5.2, I recommend to use IBRION = 6 instead to reduce the number of needed displacements. Otherwise if you are using Vasp 4.6, you can do a corresponding symmetry analysis, and then assemble the dynamical matrix by hand.

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#4 Post by alex » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:21 pm

@forsdan: right. I was not considering tiny cells
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